Comments on: It Really Pays to Go Green http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/ Reporting on Sustainably Built Environments from Bricks to Cities Thu, 24 May 2012 21:36:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Chris http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-90053 Chris Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:15:46 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-90053 Great post, it is true that people believe that going green cost money. I educate the public that going green should not cost you money. Unfortunately because being "Green" is a new movement and a cool one to be involved in. So we have organizations out there that take advantage of this lack of public education. I personally believe that this idea of going green cost money because consumers are lead to believe they have to buy expensive third party certification. This post just proves the end result of CFL bulbs out ways the results of an incandescent bulb. Remember going green should save you money. Great post, it is true that people believe that going green cost money. I educate the public that going green should not cost you money. Unfortunately because being "Green" is a new movement and a cool one to be involved in. So we have organizations out there that take advantage of this lack of public education. I personally believe that this idea of going green cost money because consumers are lead to believe they have to buy expensive third party certification.
This post just proves the end result of CFL bulbs out ways the results of an incandescent bulb. Remember going green should save you money.

]]> By: Chris http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-99816 Chris Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:15:00 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-99816 Great post, it is true that people believe that going green cost money. I educate the public that going green should not cost you money. Unfortunately because being "Green" is a new movement and a cool one to be involved in. So we have organizations out there that take advantage of this lack of public education. I personally believe that this idea of going green cost money because consumers are lead to believe they have to buy expensive third party certification. This post just proves the end result of CFL bulbs out ways the results of an incandescent bulb. Remember going green should save you money. Great post, it is true that people believe that going green cost money. I educate the public that going green should not cost you money. Unfortunately because being "Green" is a new movement and a cool one to be involved in. So we have organizations out there that take advantage of this lack of public education. I personally believe that this idea of going green cost money because consumers are lead to believe they have to buy expensive third party certification.
This post just proves the end result of CFL bulbs out ways the results of an incandescent bulb. Remember going green should save you money.

]]> By: Green Buildings Miss Mark on Efficiency : Green Building Elements http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-90034 Green Buildings Miss Mark on Efficiency : Green Building Elements Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:39:31 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-90034 [...] Green Buildings Miss Mark on Efficiency Written by Dawn Killough Published on July 23rd, 2010 2040http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/23/green-buildings-miss-mark-on-efficiency/Green+Buildings+Miss+Mark+on+Efficiency2010-07-23+18%3A39%3A00Dawn+Killough Posted in Energy Efficiency, Green Design, LEED certification Hello! If you are new here, you might want to Subscribe or Follow us on Facebook .Powered by WP Greet Box WordPress PluginA recent article in the Oregon Daily Journal of Commerce by Mark Winder brought up an interesting point about green buildings: sometimes they aren’t as efficient as they were meant to be.  Winder cites a 2008 study by the New Buildings Institute regarding the energy use of LEED certified buildings.  The report says that while most of the certified buildings were performing as expected or better, a full 25% were not as efficient as originally designed.  I know this is a hot topic, as many conversations are taking place regarding “greenwashing” (presenting products as green when they may not be) and the added cost of going green. [...] [...] Green Buildings Miss Mark on Efficiency Written by Dawn Killough Published on July 23rd, 2010 2040http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/23/green-buildings-miss-mark-on-efficiency/Green+Buildings+Miss+Mark+on+Efficiency2010-07-23+18%3A39%3A00Dawn+Killough Posted in Energy Efficiency, Green Design, LEED certification Hello! If you are new here, you might want to Subscribe or Follow us on Facebook .Powered by WP Greet Box WordPress PluginA recent article in the Oregon Daily Journal of Commerce by Mark Winder brought up an interesting point about green buildings: sometimes they aren’t as efficient as they were meant to be.  Winder cites a 2008 study by the New Buildings Institute regarding the energy use of LEED certified buildings.  The report says that while most of the certified buildings were performing as expected or better, a full 25% were not as efficient as originally designed.  I know this is a hot topic, as many conversations are taking place regarding “greenwashing” (presenting products as green when they may not be) and the added cost of going green. [...]

]]> By: treehuggerconsulting http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-90033 treehuggerconsulting Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:40:19 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-90033 Thanks for all the great comments. Yes, there may be an additional cost to disposal of the CFL, but when you compare that to the energy savings and the carbon from that energy and less bulbs to dispose of, CFLs still come out ahead. And with LEDs entering the market, it is only going to get better. Right now LEDs are too expensive and the technology is still developing, but they never really "burn out," they just dim over time. There will be disposal concerns there too, but again the savings will be tremendous. Thanks for all the great comments. Yes, there may be an additional cost to disposal of the CFL, but when you compare that to the energy savings and the carbon from that energy and less bulbs to dispose of, CFLs still come out ahead. And with LEDs entering the market, it is only going to get better. Right now LEDs are too expensive and the technology is still developing, but they never really "burn out," they just dim over time. There will be disposal concerns there too, but again the savings will be tremendous.

]]> By: treehuggerconsulting http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-99815 treehuggerconsulting Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:40:00 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-99815 Thanks for all the great comments. Yes, there may be an additional cost to disposal of the CFL, but when you compare that to the energy savings and the carbon from that energy and less bulbs to dispose of, CFLs still come out ahead. And with LEDs entering the market, it is only going to get better. Right now LEDs are too expensive and the technology is still developing, but they never really "burn out," they just dim over time. There will be disposal concerns there too, but again the savings will be tremendous. Thanks for all the great comments. Yes, there may be an additional cost to disposal of the CFL, but when you compare that to the energy savings and the carbon from that energy and less bulbs to dispose of, CFLs still come out ahead. And with LEDs entering the market, it is only going to get better. Right now LEDs are too expensive and the technology is still developing, but they never really "burn out," they just dim over time. There will be disposal concerns there too, but again the savings will be tremendous.

]]> By: JollyGreenGirl http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-90028 JollyGreenGirl Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:58:04 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-90028 I do agree there is an extra effort to dispose of CFLs properly because of trace amount of mercury in them... however you have to take into account how many times you would change an incandescent to CFL; I do think CFLs still come out on top. Like I stated before. I still have CFL lightbulbs that is still emitting light from 2007. I know I would have changed the those light bulb at least three times with incandescent and who knows when I have to change the everlasting CFLs. More stores are taking back CFLs to be disposed of or recycled.. so you can just drop it off while you are shopping at Home Depot. I know everyone goes to Home Depot once in awhile. Also the amount of mercury contained in CFL is about the size of the period at end of this sentence. A thermometer has 125 more times the mercury than a single CFL. It's not a hazmat if it accidentally breaks. Believe me, I know all about that since my hubby works with EPA and hazmat every day for his job. You obviously need to take precautions, but I do think the benefits are much greater. I do agree there is an extra effort to dispose of CFLs properly because of trace amount of mercury in them… however you have to take into account how many times you would change an incandescent to CFL; I do think CFLs still come out on top. Like I stated before. I still have CFL lightbulbs that is still emitting light from 2007. I know I would have changed the those light bulb at least three times with incandescent and who knows when I have to change the everlasting CFLs.

More stores are taking back CFLs to be disposed of or recycled.. so you can just drop it off while you are shopping at Home Depot. I know everyone goes to Home Depot once in awhile. Also the amount of mercury contained in CFL is about the size of the period at end of this sentence. A thermometer has 125 more times the mercury than a single CFL. It's not a hazmat if it accidentally breaks. Believe me, I know all about that since my hubby works with EPA and hazmat every day for his job. You obviously need to take precautions, but I do think the benefits are much greater.

]]> By: JollyGreenGirl http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-99814 JollyGreenGirl Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:58:00 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-99814 I do agree there is an extra effort to dispose of CFLs properly because of trace amount of mercury in them... however you have to take into account how many times you would change an incandescent to CFL; I do think CFLs still come out on top. Like I stated before. I still have CFL lightbulbs that is still emitting light from 2007. I know I would have changed the those light bulb at least three times with incandescent and who knows when I have to change the everlasting CFLs. More stores are taking back CFLs to be disposed of or recycled.. so you can just drop it off while you are shopping at Home Depot. I know everyone goes to Home Depot once in awhile. Also the amount of mercury contained in CFL is about the size of the period at end of this sentence. A thermometer has 125 more times the mercury than a single CFL. It's not a hazmat if it accidentally breaks. Believe me, I know all about that since my hubby works with EPA and hazmat every day for his job. You obviously need to take precautions, but I do think the benefits are much greater. I do agree there is an extra effort to dispose of CFLs properly because of trace amount of mercury in them… however you have to take into account how many times you would change an incandescent to CFL; I do think CFLs still come out on top. Like I stated before. I still have CFL lightbulbs that is still emitting light from 2007. I know I would have changed the those light bulb at least three times with incandescent and who knows when I have to change the everlasting CFLs.

More stores are taking back CFLs to be disposed of or recycled.. so you can just drop it off while you are shopping at Home Depot. I know everyone goes to Home Depot once in awhile. Also the amount of mercury contained in CFL is about the size of the period at end of this sentence. A thermometer has 125 more times the mercury than a single CFL. It's not a hazmat if it accidentally breaks. Believe me, I know all about that since my hubby works with EPA and hazmat every day for his job. You obviously need to take precautions, but I do think the benefits are much greater.

]]> By: JollyGreenGirl http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-90027 JollyGreenGirl Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:11:00 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-90027 Great post Dawn! It really helps to have a real life example and comparisons to show others that green does indeed save money after the initial investment. I still have CFLs from 2007 that has yet to burn out, and we use it daily. Great post Dawn! It really helps to have a real life example and comparisons to show others that green does indeed save money after the initial investment. I still have CFLs from 2007 that has yet to burn out, and we use it daily.

]]> By: JollyGreenGirl http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-99813 JollyGreenGirl Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:11:00 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-99813 Great post Dawn! It really helps to have a real life example and comparisons to show others that green does indeed save money after the initial investment. I still have CFLs from 2007 that has yet to burn out, and we use it daily. Great post Dawn! It really helps to have a real life example and comparisons to show others that green does indeed save money after the initial investment. I still have CFLs from 2007 that has yet to burn out, and we use it daily.

]]> By: Dan Dugal http://greenbuildingelements.com/2010/07/22/it-really-pays-to-go-green/comment-page-1/#comment-90026 Dan Dugal Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:54:37 +0000 http://greenbuildingelements.com/?p=2028#comment-90026 Thanks for the great article. But you stopped a bit short in your analysis. What is the cost of recycling or disposal? Most people will simply throw away a traditional incandescent bulb, but shouldn't do the same with a CFL due to the mercury content. I think that the CFL will still win by a far margin, and I've stopped buying incandescent bulbs a long time ago. But, for completeness, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the costs of disposal/recycling the CFL as well. Thanks for the great article. But you stopped a bit short in your analysis. What is the cost of recycling or disposal?

Most people will simply throw away a traditional incandescent bulb, but shouldn't do the same with a CFL due to the mercury content. I think that the CFL will still win by a far margin, and I've stopped buying incandescent bulbs a long time ago. But, for completeness, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the costs of disposal/recycling the CFL as well.

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