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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://greenbuildingelements.com/2007/04/02/insulated-concrete-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-110702</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of insulated concrete is fascinating. It&#039;s much more convenient than fiberglass and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virginiafoam.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;foam insulation&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of insulated concrete is fascinating. It&#8217;s much more convenient than fiberglass and <a href="http://www.virginiafoam.com" rel="nofollow">foam insulation</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: chiser dan</title>
		<link>http://greenbuildingelements.com/2007/04/02/insulated-concrete-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-6380</link>
		<dc:creator>chiser dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you help me with address with producer of this products (polyurethane IFC)</description>
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		<title>By: chiser dan</title>
		<link>http://greenbuildingelements.com/2007/04/02/insulated-concrete-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-97499</link>
		<dc:creator>chiser dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you help me with address with producer of this products (polyurethane IFC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you help me with address with producer of this products (polyurethane IFC)</p>
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		<title>By: richard blumenfeld c as green as it gets constuction</title>
		<link>http://greenbuildingelements.com/2007/04/02/insulated-concrete-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-4290</link>
		<dc:creator>richard blumenfeld c as green as it gets constuction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>intrested, future projects.  my contact v email or phone xxx xxx xxxx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>intrested, future projects.  my contact v email or phone xxx xxx xxxx.</p>
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		<title>By: richard blumenfeld c as green</title>
		<link>http://greenbuildingelements.com/2007/04/02/insulated-concrete-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-97498</link>
		<dc:creator>richard blumenfeld c as green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>intrested, future projects.  my contact v email or phone xxx xxx xxxx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>intrested, future projects.  my contact v email or phone xxx xxx xxxx.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Proefrock</title>
		<link>http://greenbuildingelements.com/2007/04/02/insulated-concrete-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Proefrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Evidently this story got picked up on by Lloyd Alter at Treehugger with an alternative view on the subject.  I don&#039;t think he and I are of significantly different opinions on the subject, but he points out a number of the problems with ICFs, where I dwelt more (perhaps overmuch) on the positive aspects without addressing the tradeoffs.  If you didn&#039;t come to this article from the TreeHugger article link, you may be interested in reading that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php&quot;&gt;article &lt;/a&gt; (and the comments that follow):  http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Here is a copy of the comment I posted at TreeHugger:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Given a sandwich-style ICF like the one Lloyd used to illustrate this article, his points have much more strength.  But some other ICFs, like the Insulock blocks, are primarily foam, with cores for pouring concrete and adding re-steel.  Using these helps to significantly reduce the amount of concrete needed versus either a sandwich style ICF or a traditional concrete basement wall.  An 8&quot; Insulock wall also offers R-38 insulation, versus R-22 for an 8&quot; Eco-Block with 4&quot; concrete.  But either one is vastly better than an uninsulated 8&quot; concrete foundation wall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For above grade construction, it is not even necessary to fill all the cores, enabling further savings in material and embodied energy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree that there are many cases where using ICFs above grade is not the most efficient use of resources.  But some other comments to this have already pointed out cases where someone might reasonably choose to use that approach.  To those others, let me add a case where a building was being built by a crew with only limited skills.  Fewer kinds of materials going into a building also means fewer supply trucks making deliveries to the site. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidently this story got picked up on by Lloyd Alter at Treehugger with an alternative view on the subject.  I don&#39;t think he and I are of significantly different opinions on the subject, but he points out a number of the problems with ICFs, where I dwelt more (perhaps overmuch) on the positive aspects without addressing the tradeoffs.  If you didn&#39;t come to this article from the TreeHugger article link, you may be interested in reading that <a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php">article </a> (and the comments that follow):  <a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php</a></p>
<p><em>Here is a copy of the comment I posted at TreeHugger:</em></p>
<p>Given a sandwich-style ICF like the one Lloyd used to illustrate this article, his points have much more strength.  But some other ICFs, like the Insulock blocks, are primarily foam, with cores for pouring concrete and adding re-steel.  Using these helps to significantly reduce the amount of concrete needed versus either a sandwich style ICF or a traditional concrete basement wall.  An 8&quot; Insulock wall also offers R-38 insulation, versus R-22 for an 8&quot; Eco-Block with 4&quot; concrete.  But either one is vastly better than an uninsulated 8&quot; concrete foundation wall.</p>
<p>For above grade construction, it is not even necessary to fill all the cores, enabling further savings in material and embodied energy.</p>
<p>I agree that there are many cases where using ICFs above grade is not the most efficient use of resources.  But some other comments to this have already pointed out cases where someone might reasonably choose to use that approach.  To those others, let me add a case where a building was being built by a crew with only limited skills.  Fewer kinds of materials going into a building also means fewer supply trucks making deliveries to the site. </p>
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		<title>By: Philip Proefrock</title>
		<link>http://greenbuildingelements.com/2007/04/02/insulated-concrete-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-97497</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Proefrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidently this story got picked up on by Lloyd Alter at Treehugger with an alternative view on the subject.  I don&#039;t think he and I are of significantly different opinions on the subject, but he points out a number of the problems with ICFs, where I dwelt more (perhaps overmuch) on the positive aspects without addressing the tradeoffs.  If you didn&#039;t come to this article from the TreeHugger article link, you may be interested in reading that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article &lt;/a&gt; (and the comments that follow):  http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php&lt;em&gt;Here is a copy of the comment I posted at TreeHugger:&lt;/em&gt;Given a sandwich-style ICF like the one Lloyd used to illustrate this article, his points have much more strength.  But some other ICFs, like the Insulock blocks, are primarily foam, with cores for pouring concrete and adding re-steel.  Using these helps to significantly reduce the amount of concrete needed versus either a sandwich style ICF or a traditional concrete basement wall.  An 8&quot; Insulock wall also offers R-38 insulation, versus R-22 for an 8&quot; Eco-Block with 4&quot; concrete.  But either one is vastly better than an uninsulated 8&quot; concrete foundation wall.For above grade construction, it is not even necessary to fill all the cores, enabling further savings in material and embodied energy.I agree that there are many cases where using ICFs above grade is not the most efficient use of resources.  But some other comments to this have already pointed out cases where someone might reasonably choose to use that approach.  To those others, let me add a case where a building was being built by a crew with only limited skills.  Fewer kinds of materials going into a building also means fewer supply trucks making deliveries to the site. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidently this story got picked up on by Lloyd Alter at Treehugger with an alternative view on the subject.  I don&#039;t think he and I are of significantly different opinions on the subject, but he points out a number of the problems with ICFs, where I dwelt more (perhaps overmuch) on the positive aspects without addressing the tradeoffs.  If you didn&#039;t come to this article from the TreeHugger article link, you may be interested in reading that <a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php" rel="nofollow">article </a> (and the comments that follow):  <a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/insulated_concr.php</a><em>Here is a copy of the comment I posted at TreeHugger:</em>Given a sandwich-style ICF like the one Lloyd used to illustrate this article, his points have much more strength.  But some other ICFs, like the Insulock blocks, are primarily foam, with cores for pouring concrete and adding re-steel.  Using these helps to significantly reduce the amount of concrete needed versus either a sandwich style ICF or a traditional concrete basement wall.  An 8&quot; Insulock wall also offers R-38 insulation, versus R-22 for an 8&quot; Eco-Block with 4&quot; concrete.  But either one is vastly better than an uninsulated 8&quot; concrete foundation wall.For above grade construction, it is not even necessary to fill all the cores, enabling further savings in material and embodied energy.I agree that there are many cases where using ICFs above grade is not the most efficient use of resources.  But some other comments to this have already pointed out cases where someone might reasonably choose to use that approach.  To those others, let me add a case where a building was being built by a crew with only limited skills.  Fewer kinds of materials going into a building also means fewer supply trucks making deliveries to the site. </p>
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